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  1. clementinho

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    Thursday
    Rest day
    2677kcal; 120p, 279c, 126f
    Nutrition has been of quite a poor quality these few days. Thankfully, I'll be able to control what I eat from tomorrow as I'll be in familiar surroundings once again.

    I guess I'm including bulgarian split squats because they are something I feel I need to get better at for football and to strengthen my legs in the squat, not just because I suck at them. Doing them also reminds me how de-conditioned I am - I'm huffing and puffing after 2 sets of 10 with 20kg dumbbells! But I'm sure if I just squatted in every session and built up to a 200kg squat I'd end up with powerful legs too. I guess at my stage of training I just suck at everything and the way to move forward is to keep training those few movements.

    The two topics aren't related, but reading your posts reminded me of the fact that my lower back, not my legs, seems to be the limiting factor in my squats. I shouldn't be thinking about this at this stage of training, but the fact that I can feel my lower back losing the arch gives me some food for thought when I decide to tweak my programme. I'll leave it as it is for the foreseeable future, though.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 5, 2012 - 01:24 PM #
  2. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Training

    Friday

    A.M.
    2.4km in 10:00
    Rest 5min - walking for 400m
    2.4km in 10:00

    P.M.
    1. Deadlift
    5x60
    4x70
    3x80
    2x90
    5x95
    5x90
    5x85

    2a. Press
    40x5
    45x5
    45x4
    40x5

    2b. Chins
    11, 10, 8, 6, 4

    I've been feeling really out of it lately at the gym. The most noticeable difference now from what I'd been doing in the past 7 weeks is that I'd stopped drinking my black coffee 20-30min before training. This plateau may or may not have been due to this and its effect may be psychological or physiological, but I'll have coffee before my session today and see what happens.

    Another possibility is that I need a deload week, but I doubt that with my current numbers - squat 85kg for 5, bench 60kg for 8 and deadlift 95kg for 5 - I'm entitled to one. What do you guys think?

    Saturday - match day, played 30min, match rating 5.5/10

    Sunday - played another match for my friends, 60min, match rating 6/10

    Diet

    Friday (Deadlift day)
    2079kcal; 158p, 169c, 87f

    Saturday
    Huge English breakfast platter for dinner (it's an all-day breakfast restaurant - really cool) of scrambled eggs (I estimate there were 6-8), pork sausage, bread, baken beans, mushrooms.

    I can sense a pattern here - I keep my calories at maintenance for 6 days out of 7 and let myself have a free day. As I'm focusing on mass gain, I'm sure that's alright, as long as I'm eating at least 130g of protein per day.

    Sunday
    1254kcal; 132p, 95c, 43f

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 9, 2012 - 02:16 AM #
  3. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Monday (rest day)
    I decided to give my body a rest and hit the gym on Tuesday. I
    - Diet
    2298kcal; 107p, 259c, 123f

    Tuesday (rest day)
    It turned out my gym will be under renovation for the week, so I'll treat this as an unplanned deload week.
    -Diet:
    1976kcal; 122p, 168c, 148f

    With regards to my deload week, I will be doing bodyweight exercises - pistols, chins, dips, push-ups and inverted rows - for higher reps. I'll most probably be using a 5x10-15 rep system for the bodyweight exercises, with the harder ones first and the easier ones - the push-ups, rows and ab exercises - done for 3-4x15-25. I will not be setting any strict targets here besides watching out for good form, hitting my sets and reps and giving it my all.

    Next week will see a return to the weights for a second 6-week block.

    Current numbers:
    Deadlift: 95kg for 5
    Squat: 85kg for 5
    Bench: 60kg for 8
    Press: 45kg for 5

    I just realised that I'm so close to squatting 1.5 times bodyweight and benching my bodyweight for reps for the first time in my life. I'm a bit sad that it's taken so long and I've wasted so much time, but I'm finally within touching distance of this milestone. Now, I'm aiming for a short-term goal of a 100kg for 5 squat and 70kg for 5 bench. I feel I can achieve these by the end of my next 6-week block.

    As an aside, although I'm still hard up on taking a double degree in sociology and something else, I'm starting to really consider a career in fitness. Two of the people I follow besides you guys, JC Dean and Roger Lawson, have really inspired me and taught me a lot in the fitness field and I'm considering following in their footsteps. I might even try to apply for an internship at Cressey Performance - it's still early days, but who knows?

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 10, 2012 - 01:41 PM #
  4. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Wednesday, 11 July 2012

    I had a slow day at work today, so I decided not to do that bodyweight deload after all. Instead, I went to a gym near my workplace and did a few simple movements. This is still a deload week, but with all my main movements.

    Warm-up
    Hip flexor stretch 20s
    Goblet squat holds 20s
    Cossack squats 6/side
    Glute bridge 8/side
    Push-ups 20
    Band pull-aparts 20

    1. Squat
    40x5
    50x5
    60x5
    70x5x5 <-good form, explosive
    I paired the 5x5 sets with pull-ups. This is the first time I've done overhand pull-ups since my rotator cuff tear (from army training in November).
    Pull-ups 12 (before 1st 5x5 squat set), 10, 8, 6, 4 (40 total)

    2. Press
    30x5
    40x5, 5, 5, 5, 3 <- weak last set
    Paired with neutral grip chins.
    8, 6, 4 (18)

    3. Deadlift
    60x5
    70x5
    80x4x5 <-still grinding, weak grip

    4a. Hanging leg raises 
    15, 5

    4b. Rear deltoid raises 
    [email protected]

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 11, 2012 - 10:25 AM #
  5. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    The army is going to revocate me to training in mid-october, so I'll only have Sundays free to train. This won't be such a bad situation and I'm confident I can work around it.

    Anyway, I'm going to continue with the next 6-week training block having changed a few things from the previous 6 weeks. I'll lift on M/W/F and there'll be a soccer match on Saturdays. On rest days, I'll rest completely.

    Session A
    Squat
    Bench
    Barbell Row
    Accessory Work

    Session B
    Squat
    Press
    Deadlift
    Accessory Work

    Accessory Work A (Monday)
    4a. DB Bench 4x10-15
    4b. DB Rows 4x15-25

    Accessory Work B (Wednesday)
    4a. Bulgarian split squats 4x6-8
    4b. Leg curls 4x10-15

    Accessory Work C (Friday)
    4a. Standing DB Press 4x10-15
    4b. Wide grip seated row 4x10-15

    Things I've changed:
    1. Squatting every session
    2. Total body training each time
    3. Decreased the volume of accessory work; increased the frequency of main movement training (squat, deadlift, bench, press and row)
    4. Simplified my template even more. I just have 2 templates and will do them in an ABA, BAB fashion.

    Things I've kept the same:
    1. Rep schemes for both main movements and accessory work (mainly 4x10-15)
    2. Training frequency (3 times per week)
    3. Chins to be performed at bodyweight only and between sets of squats for 10-15 reps

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 12, 2012 - 12:55 PM #
  6. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Training for Tuesday, 17 Jul 12

    1. Squat
    40x5
    50x4
    60x3
    70x2
    75x1
    80x5x5

    2. Bench
    40x5
    50x3
    60x5x5

    3. neutral grip chins (done spaced between random sets of squats and bench)
    15, 12, 10, 3 (40 total)

    4a. Bulgarian split squats
    [email protected]

    4b. Leg curls
    70x15
    80x2x12

    Boy, am I glad I took that deload week. My body felt refreshed and ready to go and I hit a sweet, easy 5x5 PR with 80kg. My elbows hurt during the bench, though, which was weird - I've never had elbow problems before.

    I split up my chinning sets to get the most reps per set from them. I'm really lousy at chinning endurance - my first set would be strong and then subsequent sets would tail off into the wilderness - and bodyweight exercises overall. I was happy with my PR of 15 reps of neutral grip chins.

    Diet

    I've been off the rails a little this past week, just making sure I get enough protein (150g) and don't go too far off maintenance (I know I did 3000kcal on Saturday, but most other days it's been 2000-2200kcal). I've enjoyed this IIFYM style of eating but I've obviously not gone crazy with cheeseburgers and ice cream. The most important thing is to eat nutritious foods 80% of the time.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 17, 2012 - 02:32 PM #
  7. Jonny

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    Why are your calories so low if your focus is mass gain?

    Until a man is twenty-five, he still thinks, every so often, that under the right circumstances he could be the baddest motherfucker in the world.
    July 17, 2012 - 02:38 PM #
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  8. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Friday, 20 July 2012

    1. Squat
    40x5
    50x4
    60x3
    70x2
    80x1
    85x5x5
    The weights didn't go up as smoothly as I would've liked, but I'm making an effort to stop my habit of doing squat-mornings. I certainly didn't do that and I noted some valgus collapse and leaning to one side, but that can be easily solved with more squatting. On sunday, I'll go for 90kg for the first time.

    2. Press
    30x5
    35x3
    40x5
    40x5
    40x5
    40x4
    40x2
    I didn't get the 5x5 I wanted, which means I'll still be remaining at 40kg. This is extremely puzzling, as I've done pressing for 50kg for 3x5 before. Maybe I need more rest between my sets. I don't like this lack of progress on the press. I'm definitely weak in the initial part of the movement and strong in the lock-out. Also, my first 2 sets of 5 were smooth as hell; the third onwards went to hell.

    3. Deadlift
    60x5
    70x4
    80x3
    90x3x5
    Time to up the weight. I felt strong in the deadlift today.

    4. Neutral grip chins
    10, 10

    5a. DB bench 2x15@20kg

    5b. DB rows [email protected]
    Grip was weak here.

    Jonny said:
    Why are your calories so low if your focus is mass gain?

    My focus is on leangains, not so much mass gain. I'm not worried about gaining too much fat, as long as it doesn't interfere with my soccer performance. I have a surprisingly low bmr and NEAT - I find that my set point is at about 1860 or so.

    Anyway, I'm eating at slightly above maintenance for most of the week and then letting myself go on one day of the week. Overall, I'll have taken in an average of 200-300kcal above maintenance per day and at least 150g of protein daily. As you can see, I really know how to let myself go!

    I'm already finding myself getting a little chubby and fat around the mid-section. I should take some progress pictures to see if it really is so.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 20, 2012 - 04:41 PM #
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  9. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    I've been really behind in terms of recording my progress and caloric intake. I've had 3 binge days in a row now, which is doing murder to how I feel but hasn't really affected my body yet, thankfully. I'll get back to a more structured eating style from tomorrow onwards.

    Here're some pictures of me pretending to have Jonny's Biceps and Ben's quads:

    220712 pose

    220712 back

    220712 side

    220712 front

    My Batman boxer shorts are awesome. They shall be my new posing garb.

    Weight 62.5kg
    Shoulders 45"
    Chest 36 3/8"
    Waist 30 5/8"
    Thighs 22.5"
    Calves 14.5"

    Training for Sunday, 22 Jul 2012
    1. Squat
    40x5
    50x4
    60x3
    70x2
    80x1
    90x4x5
    ANOTHER PR! I don't know if I should go for 5x5@95kg or stay at 90kg and wait until I can hit 5x5. I'm probably going to go for 95kg, though. 100kg is my goal and I aim to race to it as fast as realistically possible. I also had the same vagus collapse problems, but I found that my squat ha more drive when I consciously pushed my knees out. In confident that I can kick this bad habit with more squatting.

    2. Bench
    50x5
    55x5
    60x5x5
    Time to increase the weight to 65kg on Wednesday. My eyes are on the prize - 75kg. 5x5@75kg in 3 weeks? Definitely reachable.

    3. Barbell rows
    40x5
    50x5
    60x5x5
    Honestly, I have no idea if I'm doing these right. I'm going as close to parallel as possible, keeping my lower back arched and retracting my shoulder blades when rowing. I cue myself to pull with my elbows and not move my hips. I'll video this down together with my (soon-to-be) 100kg squat.

    4a. DB Bench with 25kg
    8, 8, 6

    4b. DB Rows with 27.5kg
    12, 12, 12

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 22, 2012 - 02:33 PM #
  10. Yusef

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    Seeing some decent progress in the photos, and strength is coming up nicely

    "metal is just gabba for pansies" - Harrison
    July 22, 2012 - 03:10 PM #
  11. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Thanks, Yusef. Just sticking with a basic programme set-up, not over-thinking details and just doing the work. And if I need any inspiration, all I have to do is read one of the training logs to remind myself how much stronger I have yet to be.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 23, 2012 - 06:36 AM #
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  12. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Update:

    When I started this 12-week transformation, I had 4 main goals in mind:
    1. Retain a waist size of 30 inches
    2. Squat: 100kg for 5
    3. Deadlift: 120kg for 5
    4. Bench: 75kg for 5

    I'm 3 weeks from my end-date of 11 Aug and here are my current numbers:
    1. Waist: 30.5 inches (confidence of reaching goal: 9/10)
    2. Squat: 90kg for 3x5 (10/10)
    3. Deadlift: 90kg for 3x5 (6/10)
    4. Bench: 60kg for 5x5 (8/10)

    This only means one thing: if I am to get to my deadlift and bench goals, I'll have to increase the weight every single session. Will it be tough? Definitely. Is it realistic? Yes, considering these are still beginner numbers. Do I know what I have to do? You bet.

    I'm also very proud of my squat. I've been drilling myself with the proper technique cues and making sure I hit at least parallel for every rep. And my numbers just keep getting better.

    Thanks to everyone at propane for your encouragement and advice. My next checkpoint will be at the finish line. Tomorrow, I squat again.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 23, 2012 - 06:45 AM #
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  13. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    Monday, 23 Jul 2012
    A.M. fasted sprints 10x100m, rested by walking back to the starting line.

    Wednesday, 25 Jul 2012

    1. Squat
    40x5
    60x4
    70x3
    80x2
    90x1
    95x 3+2 <- PR. The heaviest weight I have ever squatted with
    95x3
    92.5x5

    These weren't good today. I had to drop the weight to get 3x5. I felt lethargic. But on the bright side, I see a PR there.

    2. Press
    30x5
    35x3
    40x5x5

    I found these easy today, to my immense relief. Now, I can increase the weight - about time I did. I felt the key to my success was bringing my stance closer - slightly narrower than hip-width - which allowed me to better fire my glutes. This was the only good result from the session.

    3. Deadlift
    60x5
    70x4
    80x3
    90x2
    100x3 (more like 3 singles with 30s rest in between) <-the heaviest weight I've ever pulled
    95x3

    The limiting factor was definitely my grip. It's always my grip. I've been doing some targeted grip training lately. It's just ridiculous to use straps when I'm only lifting 100kg, so more grip work is needed.

    Overall, the session was awful. I didn't feel right, as always happens when I train in the morning. I've tried to be a morning person, but it never works for training or work, unless it comes to cardio. I love running, sprinting or just doing high rep bodyweight work in the mornings. In contrast, I always have horrible a.m. lifting and studying sessions.

    That's it - from now onwards, my lifting sessions will be exclusively in the evenings or late mornings. And if this is nothing more than an excuse or a psychological crutch, it's now taken out of the equation. I'll be in my comfort zone now, so there's no excuse for not PR-ing next time.

    Goals for Friday's session:

    1. Squat 95kg for 3x5
    2. Bench 65kg for 3x5
    3. Chins 40 total reps over 3 sets

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 25, 2012 - 02:59 PM #
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  14. clementinho

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    Posts: 309

    FInally, I found the link to my log in Fitocracy. This means I don't have to double-compose my sessions. The following was my session for today:

    http://ftcy.me/LTk5PD

    I took a few crazy posing pictures of myself post-everything (read: before bedtime). They're nothing to be proud of, but I was just having some fun.

    Also, I took a few stats:
    1. Weight 63.6kg
    2. Height: 168.5m (holy shit, I'm short)
    3. Waist: 31.5"

    I felt really motivated in the gym today. I guess sticking to a pre-workout ritual is important for me. This is what I normally do:

    Reach home at 6.30-7pm.
    1. Savour 2tbsp of almond/cashew butter and drink 250ml of black coffee while watching an inspirational video clip (10min)
    2. Change into my gym clothes
    3. Sip a bit of water
    4. Listen to training music and walk to gym (5min)

    By then, the caffeine will have kicked in. I'll warm-up for around 5min and then get to squatting.

    The video I'm currently watching is Layne Norton's Inside The Life of a Natural Pro. I know that Dr Norton's been criticised quite heavily on Kiefer's forums, but he's still a pretty inspirational character and I love the bodybuilding.com videos of his journeys in bodybuilding and powerlifting. I'm eager to try out his PHAT system after I can squat and deadlift 200kg. Before that, I'm intending to continue on:

    1. My modified starting strength template. When I've stalled for too long, I'll proceed to...

    2. The Texas Method. When I've squeezed this dry, the next programme will be...

    3. The Propane Protocol: RPT for the main 4 movements and volume for the rest. This will be a personal 12-16 week challenge to lean out. Next up is...

    4. PHAT. Crazy-high volume, but this should be fun. I should gain more on this.

    After that, I'm thinking of trying out some of the Russian programmes before going on 5/3/1. But the following plan should keep me occupied for the next 2 years or so.

    I've been reading mongsquat's blog after being directed there by Mehrad's post on the website. The wealth of information there is just so extensive and a real help to a novice like me who harbours hopes of competing in powerlifting in the near future. Thanks for the education. Nothing has inspired me more to continue training hard until I graduate from beginner mode than reading all the cool programmes I could go on when I've paid my dues in the simple basic movements.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 27, 2012 - 02:56 PM #
  15. clementinho

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    What do I mean by modified Starting Strength? I should write a brief primer here so that I have some rules to live by in my sessions.

    Session A
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Bench 3x5
    3. Chins 5x5-20
    4. Accessory Work

    Session B
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Bench 3x5
    3. Deadlift 3x5
    4. Accessory Work

    I've made 3 main modifications: adding accessory work for more volume and hypertrophy, doing more deadlifts to build grip strength and practise my form more and increasing the volume of chins (neutral grip) to improve my grip strength and bring up my back more. Also, I want to improve my endurance at chins.

    Accessory Work - all for 4x6-12

    Monday
    4a. DB Press
    4b. Wide grip seated row

    Wednesday
    4a. Bulgarian Split Squats
    4b. Good Mornings/leg curls (if the power rack is being used)

    Friday
    4a. DB Bench
    4b. DB Rows

    If I stall on the main lifts for 2 times in a row, I'll drop the weight by 10kg and do 4x5 until I get back to the weight I stalled at, where I'll continue moving upwards using the 3x5 scheme. If I still stall twice more at that weight, I'm done with the programme and will move on to the texas method. However, I'm expecting this template to be in place at least until October.

    I've had great success following a principle of Wendler's: aim to have a great workout on the main lifts and a good, solid one for the rest of the session. That's what I aim to do, so I'm not going to be really fussy with my accessory work. I just have to make sure I get the required sets and reps in.

    I've been suffering from sore shoulders and elbows lately when benching - a phenomenon that has never occurred before - so I'm consciously adding in push-ups for my warm-ups and band pull-aparts, rear deltoid raises and face pulls after my sessions or between each set of bench.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 27, 2012 - 05:01 PM #
  16. Harrison

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    you dont need to deadlift more (in terms of volume or frequency), you just need to deadlift for longer.

    try

    squat
    bench
    chins

    squat
    press
    deadlift ramp in 5s (say 140x5 is your workset: 40x5, 60x5, 80x5, 100x5, 120x5, 140x5)
    speed pulls (50-70% of your max, 5-10 singles, eg 75, 75, 80, 80, 85, 90 - good form 1st priority, speed second, should be easy, if a bit tiring)

    squat
    bench
    rows (DB or BB, just go heavy)

    Everything else is about your plan is fine. I like your stalling out technique.

    You dont need more volume for hypertrophy, you need more weight on the bar, on the above exercises. If you have energy left after the main stuff you can do all your 4a and b stuff but its going to be fairly unimportant.

    Your looking leaner, well done.
    You need to add muscle to the following areas in particular:

    back
    upper back
    back
    chest
    shoulders
    (hams and glutes) this is more goal dependant, but if you want to be a powerlifter, you need a bigger ass.

    If you do any extra work than above the template, I would to it to improve those areas.
    ie rows (horizontal plane, not chins), shrugs, rear delts, face pulls, back extensions, good mornings, romanian deadlifts, DB chest work (bench, flyes, whatever), DB press, lateral raises (front side and rear delt raise complex could be good finisher)

    imo picking one of those exercises at the end of a session and doing a good 3-5 sets, (reps depend on exercise, id say 8-15 as a general rule) will give you a bigger reward per effort than doing two exercises, or BSS or whatever for now.

    lets say for example you do RDLs, shrugs, and a shoulder complex to finish on mon wed fri respectively. If you push those exercises, within a month you will see visible improvement in your upper back and shoulders, and probably you will feel your deadlift form has improved and your hams and glutes have come up too. If you do 6-8 exercises instead of 3, you will see less improvement in any area. focus your efforts.

    its very easy to write stuff down and think it looks good, but 5 exercises is a lot per session, especially if two or three are big movements

    for example, my squat day, basically 3 exercises.
    squat 3 sets, paused squats 2x2 - obviously squat
    good mornings 3x8 - lower back is weak
    abs 3x8 - core can always be stronger

    both the assistance exercises are helping the main lift. I can barely be bothered to finish abs at the end of a session.

    squat speedwork 6x3 50-60% (v easy, warmup)
    deadlift 3 sets, ramped
    shrugs 3x8
    back extensions 3x20
    abs 3x8

    shrugs and back extensions are pretty easy here, but fit in well after deadlift. again im hitting weak points, lower back, upper back.

    now compare those to this session, when peaking:

    Squat
    130x5
    130x5
    130x5

    Deadlift (belt)
    175x3
    160x5
    140x3
    140x3

    Deficits - so hard on lower back, rounded to shit
    2"
    60x5
    60x5
    1"
    60x5

    blocks, accidentally a 6" block, meant to use 4"
    60x5
    100x5
    110x5
    120x5
    120x5

    Circuit:
    Shrug 60kg 20/20/20
    Reverse Crunch 5kg 12/10/10
    P Row 60kg 10/10/10

    Much more volume, more exercises. Couldnt do this every session. Was probably the biggest session in a 12 week block. Was also eating more.

    If you eat more, you can handle more volume. If you are losing weight, need to be even more selective about what exercises you do. If its not helping you achieve something, then you are wasting time/energy. And if you try to do too much, you will see little progress in any area.

    this seems long, but im just trying to share what I think about programming with you. I learnt the long way not to do this:
    Doing 5/3/1
    Squat day
    what can I do as assistance?
    pause squats, yeah
    but I need lower back work, ok ill do RDLs
    i should through chins in too
    oh but I need to do abs as well, well ill just put some sets in afterwards
    I should really do face pulls too though

    before you know it you have 5-6 exercises instead of 2-3, because it seems better on paper, and none of them go up as well as they should do.

    If you want more volume for shoulders or chest, a good way is to just add a drop set, of 8-12 reps, after your 3x5. say you did 80 3x5, drop to 60 rep out, get 12. Easy way of adding more volume without adding another exercise. Also a good way of increasing your work capacity and ability to handle more volume.

    training is going well, what you're doing diet wise is working. When you are happy with lean-ness, I would focus on adding mass.

    heres an example of what I mean:
    squat 90 3x5
    bench 60 3x5, 50x9
    chins
    lots of energy left, did RDLs 4x10 with 40kg working on keeping lower back arched.

    squat 92 3x5
    press 45 3x5, 40x8
    deadlift 120x5, singles with 70, 5x1
    shrugs, 30x10 40x10 50x22, fun all out top set

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    July 27, 2012 - 06:29 PM #
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  17. Yusef

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    I've missed you harrison.

    "metal is just gabba for pansies" - Harrison
    July 27, 2012 - 06:36 PM #
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  18. clementinho

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    Wow, thanks for the advice. That's got to be the best template advice I've seen. You've got much more experience than me, so yes, I will definitely adjust my programme according to your recommendations.

    I'll have to consider the following:

    1. My shoulders and elbows have been giving me problems when benching recently, so my back-off sets on the bench will be done with DBs. The back-offs for the rest of the exercises will be done with the barbell.

    2. When doing RDLs and deadlifts, my grip is the limiting factor. Therefore, I'm thinking of doing good mornings for my posterior chain, so the weight used won't be compromised. I'll let the deadlifts and pulling movements take care of grip training.

    3. I like the 3-5x8-15 range you recommend. 

    4. For back-off sets, I'll take 10kg off and try for 15 reps. When I can get 15 reps, I'll increase the weight by 2.5kg.

    Just to clarify, do you mean:

    Session A
    1. Squat 3x5, back-off set
    2. Bench 3x5, back-off set
    3. Chins 4x8-15
    4. Good mornings 4x8-15

    Session B
    1. Squat 3x5, back-off set
    2. Press 3x5, back-off set
    3. Deadlift to 5RM, 10x1@50-70% of 5RM
    4. Face pulls 4x8-15

    Friday
    1. Squat 3x5, back-off set
    2. Bench 3x5, back-off set
    3. DB Rows 4x8-15
    4. Shoulder complex 4x8-15

    This would mean I'll not be pulling twice per week on some weeks, as strting strength would've had. I guess the volume would help and prevent my lower back from being stressed too much.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    July 28, 2012 - 01:48 PM #
  19. Harrison

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    Yeah, pretty much, I wouldnt do back off sets for squats personally, you could if you wanted though. Ive made some slight changes, particularly to the rep schemes

    Session A
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Bench 3x5, back-off set
    3. Chins - do whatever, your good at chins. maybe 3-5sets x max reps, or start adding weight with 3x5
    4. Good mornings 3x8-12

    Session B
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Press 3x5, back-off set
    3. Deadlift to 5RM, up to 10x1@50-80% of 5RM
    4. Face pulls 3-5x15-20 (higher reps, higher volume for face pulls, can do a few heavy sets 5-8reps as well)

    Session C
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Bench 3x5, back-off set
    3. DB Rows 5x8-15 (do a shit ton of rowing)
    4. Shoulder complex 3x8

    go ABC ABC etc each week

    dont have to be so strict with everything. Stuff I have put in italics is extra work. Dont always have to do it, but it will help.
    your going to be able to do more sets and reps on face pulls than good mornings
    if you do three exercises on shoulder complex, then 3x8 is really like 9x24

    you dont have to do 10 singles after deadlift, I would try and get 5 or 6 done, and if you are feeling awesome, you can do more.

    with back off sets, just take a weight and rep out. I like to keep the weight the same for a few weeks, and get more reps, then increase by 5 or 10. just take 10-20kg less and get as many as you can.

    the extra exercises might not always go well, not a big deal if they dont. if your main exercises are harder, they might in fact go down. but think of the cumulative effect. you should be trying to progress on them though, just not the same as +2.5kg every session or whatever, just more reps on each set, (3x8, 3x10 next time, 3x12 time after, then add 5kg and start 3x8 again)

    I would look at your bench technique if shoulders and elbows are hurting. could just be a bit of tendonitis. just do the extra set on the bench, if anything it will get you more used to benching, and improve your technique.
    -keep your back tight, shoulders pulled together
    -keep your elbows from flaring out
    -using a bit of an arch will reduce shoulder issues

    also heres an example of how you could do face pulls
    20x20
    25x15
    30x10
    35x8
    40x5

    so youve got lots of volume, but still got some heavier work in. work hard on these, its easy to not train these very hard. do as many reps as you can, with as much weight as you can basically.

    as you do different exercises, youll figure out how you like to train them. some feel better with more reps, some with less.

    Also, your not going to get 15 reps, if you take 10kg off what you can do for 3x5 (well not for long), so like I said just take some weight off, to a nice number, ie 60, then rep out. If you get 8 thats fine, aim for 10 next time. if you get 15+ then next time use 65 or 70.

    For good mornings, if you want to focus hamstrings, stick your arse out backward, if you want to focus on lower back, you need to let yourself come forward out over your toes, so the bar is trying to pull you over a bit.

    RDLs are still a good exercise, could do them double overhand and get extra grip work in. do them lighter than your deadlift, think 3x8-12. They will improve your flexibility as well.

    I would pull once per week, every week. If you pull properly you will be fucked from doing deadlift once a week.

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    July 28, 2012 - 05:48 PM #
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  20. clementinho

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    Thanks, man. You've really been a great help. I'll follow this programme to the letter for the next 12-16 weeks. I don't foresee a lot of stalling.

    It's been a week since I last lifted. I've been so busy it's been a chore just to get 6 hours of sleep in. By the time I reach home, the gym'd already be closed.

    For that reason, I rejoiced at the weekend. Saturday was a sleep-in-cum-eat-all-I-want day and today, Sunday, I trained fasted. In fact, the clock reads 2.24pm and I still haven't eaten yet.

    Today's training:

    I warmed-up with a circuit aimed at fixing my left shoulder. Specifically:

    static stretching for hip flexors, glutes
    squat-to-stands with overhead reach
    wall ankle mobilisation
    high knee marches and butt kicks with 3s hold
    spiderman climbs with 3s hold
    defranco band pull aparts 3x8
    push-ups 12
    stick-ups 12

    And then I got the squat rack free.

    http://ftcy.me/32RcrJ

    Okay, time for me to eat. I'm hungry.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 5, 2012 - 07:38 AM #
  21. clementinho

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    Harrison, this is the first time I've seen heavy face pulls. It's interesting and I will definitely give it a go. I'll probably work up to a top set of 5 on one of my days.

    Session A
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Bench 3x5, back-off set with dumbbells
    3. Chins/DB Rows 4x8-15 (alternating every workout)
    4. Good Mornings/RDLs 4x8-12 (optional)

    Session B
    1. Squat 3x5
    2. Press 3x5, back-off set
    3. Deadlifts to 5RM, up to 10x1@50_80% of 5RM
    4. Face pulls to heavy set of 5

    Week 1: ABA
    Week 2: BAB
    Etc.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 5, 2012 - 07:45 AM #
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  22. Harrison

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    ey 100x3! bout time.

    I would go ABA, ABA, ABA, ABA etc so only one B per week

    Try this next squat session:

    40x8
    50x5
    60x5
    70x5
    80x5

    90x5
    95x5
    100x3+ (aim for 5!)

    • Dont be afraid of doing reps in your warmup, just take it easy set up good and bash out 5.
    • With 100 as your final top set you will be prepared for it and give it everything. Take as much rest as you need on the way there (within reason, 2-3mins, max 5. the faster you get used to cutting down rest times the better)
    • with DB rows, about one hand grip weakness: do a set with the weak hand first, match it with the other. Up the weight on these, 30-35s. You can always do more sets so dont worry about grip giving out. so you might go like, 15 12 10 7 5 (reps)
    • for bench, warmup with the bar, couple of sets, i like to use different grips, get my tris warmed up with close grip, then go like
      40x5
      50x5
      65 3x5
      55x8+

      60 is too close to your work set, just do 65

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    August 5, 2012 - 05:18 PM #
  23. clementinho

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    Wednesday, 8 Aug 2012

    http://ftcy.me/aNux5R

    Harrison, thanks for the ramping up recommendations. I used them in today's session and didn't notice any real negative effects, just that I had to grind the last rep of 95kg. Well, not exactly - it was more like an easy grind than the all-out pushing past my stalling point.

    However, this would mean that I only have 1 top set and what I'm doing wouldn't be starting strength any more. I prefer to ramp up to a top set of 3x5 at the same weight. If I can't handle the weight, I'll lower the weight by 2.5-5kg and complete my 3x5.

    I don't feel I did my squat justice.

    This is the Dave Tate video that I was talking about in my log. I will be changing to sumo deadlifts from my next deadlifting session onwards because:

    1. They felt easier. I could have easily pulled 100kg for 5. I'm better at sumos, although I switched to conventional a few months back because I felt it was essential to learn the movement.

    2. My lower back felt more comfortable and I was able to get in a healthy straight (arched) back. I think it's due to the decreased range of motion and I don't have the flexibility yet to perform conventional pulls.

    3. I use the hook grip for deadlifts. For the sumos, my grip was in the exact same position (grip width) as when conventional deadlifting, but I had minimal grip issues. Again, this could be due to the awkward position when conventional deadlifting that results from poor flexibility.

    4. I've stalled too long on the deadlift. Maybe I need a different stance.

    1907kcal; 155p, 160c, 79f

    I've decided to stop my nonsense with nutrition and get back to logging it down on myfitnesspal.com, as:

    1. I've made the most performance gains when I was doing it. It could be because I made a point to consume enough protein.

    2. I found that I was eating much less protein than I should be (96g yesterday when trying to eat ad-lib) and more carbs and fat than I should.

    3. It's cool to know how much to eat and how much more I should/can/feel like eating.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 8, 2012 - 08:30 AM #
  24. Harrison

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    only said to ramp like that because youre trying to squat 100 for 3x5, when you cant do one set of 5. that way you could have gone 90x5 95x5 100x5
    95x5 100x5 100x5
    100x5 100x5 100x5
    you should realize that all 3x5s are the same regardless of weight across sets, you think ramping will produce different results to a straight weight? nope.

    looks like you should drop it to 90 for 3x5 and work up in 2.5s since you didnt get 95 for 5

    thats bollocks about sumos, you havent stalled (your lifts have only just started increasing) and need to change stance, you just need to deadlift more. If you like sumo then do it but thats not a reason to tell yourself. if you think it suits you better do it.

    i think my take on it would be that your lower back is weak, so it feels better because there is less back involved in sumo. I would go the opposite way and hammer RDLs / good mornings and make my lower back strong, rather than avoid it.

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    August 8, 2012 - 01:16 PM #
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  25. clementinho

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    Oh, my apologies, I misunderstood what you wrote earlier. I thought you meant traditional ramping to a top set of 5 at first, but I think what you're talking about is more of 3 working sets of 5, with the goal of hitting 100 for 3x5 in the short-term? For example:

    Session 1
    90x5, 95x5, 100x3

    Session 2
    95x5, 100x5, 100x3

    Session 3
    100x5, 100x5, 100x5

    I'll give the 100kgs another go using your scheme for my next squatting session. I could have done 95kg for 5 - I just thought it was supposed to be my final warm-up set for 100kg, so I did only 3. I'm confident that next time round I'll be able to get 100kg for 5.

    Actually, I know that I'm stronger sumo than conventional - I always have been, even though I haven't pulled sumo in almost a year. But now I know it's due to my weak lower back and grip. I could feel the obvious difference, having pulled both today.

    I honestly am not sure if I should switch to pulling sumo, so I shall just take your advice - pull conventional and supplement with plenty of lower back and grip work. I've been pulling conventional for the best part of the last year, so I'll just stick to it.

    When in doubt, listen to people wiser and stronger.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 8, 2012 - 04:55 PM #
  26. Harrison

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    Session 1
    90x5, 95x5, 100x5

    Session 2
    95x5, 100x5, 100x5

    Session 3
    100x5, 100x5, 100x5

    yeah like this. maybe start 85/90/95, 90/95/95, 95/95/95

    pull sumo then! and hammer low back with assistance.

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    August 8, 2012 - 11:59 PM #
  27. clementinho

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    Friday, 10 August 2012

    http://ftcy.me/4C2CUY

    2099kcal; 162p, 213c, 71f

    This marks the end of my 12-week transformation. I took no deloads, but I did skip a few sessions here and there. In retrospect, I should have put in more effort with my diet and gotten in more quality rest. These are things that I could have controlled.

    When talking about putting in more effort, I'm referring to my deadlift. It has not improved at all. I fucked up - I must hold up my hands and admit that. I went from conventional pulls to rack pulls at the lowest setting as I only had the use of the hexagonal bars, and then decided not to be a pussy too late. For the 12-week block of training, I will be pulling sumo, just because I want to try out how it feels.

    In the 12 weeks, this has been my progress:
    1. Squat: 70kg for 8 -> 100kg for 3 (which was not my PR in today's session, but the last one. Goal was 100kg for 5, which I narrowly missed out on)
    2. Deadlift: 90kg for 4 -> 100kg for 1/95kg for 5 (this was embarrassing. Goal was 120kg for 5)
    3. Bench: 60kg for 5 -> 62.5kg for 5 (PR today but oh god, my goal was 80kg for 5)
    4. Military Press: 40kg for 8 -> 45kg for 3x5 (no real progress here, either)

    Things I'll have to change for the next 12 weeks:
    1. Eat more. I'm increasing my intake to 150p, 200c and 80f per day.
    2. Consistency - at least get my ass into the gym on monday, wednesday and friday and go through my pre-training routine and warm-ups. No skimping on these.
    3. Sleep enough. I'm aiming to have at least 7.5h of sleep per night.
    4. Less drinking and partying. I've already cut down on this one, so it's all good.

    Okay, I will be taking a "deload" week next week. I'll either stick to the same template but begin with 90% of my working weights or really drop the weight and do some higher-rep exercises, with front squats and barbell rows thrown in for a week, before going back to another 6-week training block.

    Thanks in particular to Harrison and Yusef, who have given me great advice and support, and Jonny and Ben for their input on carb-backloading. I've learnt a lot during these 12-weeks and it has been fun chasing my strength goals.

    Oh, and I can see my abs now. Sweet.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 10, 2012 - 02:30 PM #
  28. Harrison

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    Here, it was bound to happen. Take an easy week then do this:

    85x5
    90x5
    95x5 (86%) [110]

    90x5
    95x5
    95x5 (83%) [115]

    95x5
    95x5
    95x5 (80%) [117.5]

    On the 3rd set each session, if you can comfortably get more reps, say 6 or 7 or even 8, do so. dont just go to failure though. The percentages indicate how much of your 1rm 95 is for each session and the equivalent 1rm. Please bear in mind you are unskilled at maxing so you probably wont be able to hit them straight away.

    Then, 90/95/100, 95/100/100, 100/100/100, or 87/92/97 - 92/97/97 - 97/97/97 up to you

    I knew you werent gonna hit 100 for 3x5, thats why i said aim for 3+. Be happy you've done 2x2 with 100 and 100x3.

    If you do the first week and cant get 95x5 (which you very much should be able to get considering 90 for 4x5) just start 5kg lighter and use +2.5kg increments(90 3x5, 92, 95,97). Both methods amount to the same thing - linear progression with 3x5, one is ramped one is straight weight. Because you wanted to do 100, I told you the ramped option. Both should work just as well as each other.

    Your training and diet have improved shitloads in the last 12 weeks. do it again!

    Oh, and I can see my abs now. Sweet.

    Like Jonny said, now you need some muscle mass.

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    August 10, 2012 - 03:04 PM #
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  29. clementinho

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    Monday, 13 Aug 12

    Diet
    2963kcal, 131p, 331c, 120f

    Tuesday, 8am

    Training
    http://ftcy.me/S5tabu

    Diet
    2435kcal, 218p, 248c, 62f

    Highlights:
    - Squat 85kg for 10
    - Bench 60 for 8, 50 for 12

    Wednesday

    2556kcal; 180p, 323c, 80f

    Thursday

    Training
    http://ftcy.me/ftR5kr

    Diet
    2288kcal; 149p, 248c, 86f

    As you can see, I've been eating pretty ad-lib this week and enjoying life. I also enjoyed the high-rep squats.

    I must admit, I was thinking a lot about changing my programme from starting strength. But then why change something that ain't broke? Also,

    Harrison said:
    Here, it was bound to happen. Take an easy week then do this:

    85x5
    90x5
    95x5 (86%) [110]

    90x5
    95x5
    95x5 (83%) [115]

    95x5
    95x5
    95x5 (80%) [117.5]

    On the 3rd set each session, if you can comfortably get more reps, say 6 or 7 or even 8, do so. dont just go to failure though. The percentages indicate how much of your 1rm 95 is for each session and the equivalent 1rm. Please bear in mind you are unskilled at maxing so you probably wont be able to hit them straight away.

    Then, 90/95/100, 95/100/100, 100/100/100, or 87/92/97 - 92/97/97 - 97/97/97 up to you

    I knew you werent gonna hit 100 for 3x5, thats why i said aim for 3+. Be happy you've done 2x2 with 100 and 100x3.

    If you do the first week and cant get 95x5 (which you very much should be able to get considering 90 for 4x5) just start 5kg lighter and use +2.5kg increments(90 3x5, 92, 95,97). Both methods amount to the same thing - linear progression with 3x5, one is ramped one is straight weight. Because you wanted to do 100, I told you the ramped option. Both should work just as well as each other.

    Your training and diet have improved shitloads in the last 12 weeks. do it again!

    Oh, and I can see my abs now. Sweet.

    Like Jonny said, now you need some muscle mass.

    this was solid advice. So I will set off on another 12-week sprint after this. I WILL ONLY CHANGE THE PROGRAMME IF I HAVE STALLED AT THE SAME WEIGHT AFTER 2 CONSECUTIVE DELOADS.

    Session A
    1. Squat 3/4x5
    2. Bench 3/4x5, -10kg xMR
    3. DB Rows 4x8-15
    4. Face pulls 4x8-15

    Session B
    1. Squat 3/4x5
    2. Press 3/4x5, -10kg xMR
    3. Deadlift 1x5, 6x2@50-80%
    4. Wide grip cable rows 4x8-15

    Points to consider:

    - When I can hit a given weight for 3x5, I will go for 4x5 in the next session. When I can get 4x5, I will increase the weight by 5kg - the lowest increment this gym can provide me with.

    - On the last set, as per Harrison's advice, I will try to push the number of reps, but NOT go to failure.

    - between the first 3 warm-up sets for squats and presses, I will do a set of chins. Reps will be 8-15. So that would amount to 6 sets of chins in every session. My goal is to be able to hit 15 reps consistently.

    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    — Bruce Lee
    August 16, 2012 - 03:18 PM #
  30. Harrison

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    You don't always have to rep out, some days just take the 5, just if you want to, you can.

    I would just go straight sets (not ramped) for bench and press of 3x5, then the back off, but you can ramp if you want.
    Note here, my increments for ramping on press are very small, 47/50/52 is my 3x5 week on 531 today. if you do like 30/40/50 its just less work than 45 for 3x5, see what I mean? so either go straight sets, or keep the ramping increment as like 5% of your 1rm, which is gonna be like 2.5kg

    -just realised you only have 2.5kg plates. I would go 3x5 > 4x5 > 5x5, add 5kg, repeat.

    if you can do extra reps on the 5x5 day, you will have no problem on squat or bench to get +5kg for 3x5. Press may be awkward, but well see. I can give you a variation for that if it doesn't work. (something like 3x5 > 3x6 >3x8)

    For deadlift:
    get something for 5, or maybe 5+
    add 5kg, shoot for 3+, next week shoot for 5+, repeat
    this will make it easier than adding 5kg every week.
    the + here just means more if you feel you can, if you only get 3 or 5 thats fine. better to get 5 and not fail a 6th for example.

    The slower you progress, the slower you will stall, the stronger you will get in the same time than if you tried to do it faster.

    - On the last set, as per Harrison's advice, I will try to push the number of reps, but NOT go to failure.

    this x1000

    also, copy paste your fitocracy write-ups in here, im getting too lazy to click all these links! : P

    and, nearly forgot to say, well done on bench and squat

    "cut down on the cardio jackass."
    August 16, 2012 - 05:14 PM #

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