Ah thats interesting, what was the amount you could use in comparison to your jerk? I guess its similar to front squats in the way it will try to collapse your upper back. Sounds fun though!
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Yeah I see how that can be used, but I think it is needless. It is a basically a shoulder stabilising exercise?
Surely if continually Strict pressing to improve absolute strength, and doing multiple jerks....then the shoulders are constantly stabilising anyway to control the load at full extension, thus doing the same job?
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJune 30, 2012 - 08:23 PM # -
Harrison said:
Ah thats interesting, what was the amount you could use in comparison to your jerk? I guess its similar to front squats in the way it will try to collapse your upper back. Sounds fun though!It was ages ago, can't remember exactly what weight I got up to. It was definitely at least 120% of my jerk, probably a bit more, maybe up to 140%.
June 30, 2012 - 09:13 PM # -
Blaine said:
Yeah I see how that can be used, but I think it is needless. It is a basically a shoulder stabilising exercise?Surely if continually Strict pressing to improve absolute strength, and doing multiple jerks....then the shoulders are constantly stabilising anyway to control the load at full extension, thus doing the same job?
Yeah, definitely not a key exercise, but, like most assistance lifts, probably useful for some lifters in some situations.
I wouldn't call strict presses a key exercise either though. Useful for a beginner to build up some general strength and size, but beyond that there's very little correlation to a jerk. There's guys jerking 200+ with presses less than 100kg, I've heard of one whose best is 70.
June 30, 2012 - 09:17 PM # -
Cheers. I wanted the feedback, and completely agree. I think I have went to heavy for 5s coming back in, they felt completely shit. Need to drop it down and repeat.
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJune 30, 2012 - 10:32 PM # -
3 months since last cleans. Technique first please. I'd prefer not to load until it is looking good again.
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJune 30, 2012 - 10:45 PM # -
Back Squat
130x5
135x5
135x2
135x3
130x5....poor. probably due to d0ing a 24hr fast yesterday and having no carbs before training. I have learnt a valuable lesson.DB Power Jerks - shoulders can't hack these so switch to barbell
70x5
70x5
70x5
80x5Swiss Ball Leg Curl
3x5Tricep Extensions - 4x6 - 26pin
Hip Thrusts - 4x6 - 160kg
Face pulls - 4x6 - 38pin'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 3, 2012 - 06:10 PM # -
Overhead Squat
60x5
65x5
70x5
75x5Snatch Pulls (felt really slow and shit again - I can find a good line, constantly moving grip and feet. Il get someone to watch next week and drop to 50kg)
70x5
70x5
70x5
60x5Bench Press
85x5
90x5
95x5
100x5DB Row - 30kg - 4x6es
DB Step Ups - 9kg - 4x6es
Back Extensions - 10kg - 4x6esReverse Flys - 2 position - 2x30ep
Tennis ball chest MF'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 4, 2012 - 10:17 PM # -
Front Squat
95x5
100x5
105x5
110x5 - PB I think. All PB's at this bodyweight.Push Press - soslow
65x5
65x5
70x5
70x5RDL
130x5
130x5
130x5
120x5Lateral to Front Raise - 7kg x8es - 4 sets - so weak
Heavy DB carries - 35kg 4x20m(4 turns)
TRX Reverse Flys - 4x6'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 6, 2012 - 09:24 PM # -
power cleans
40x3
50x3
60x3
70x3
80x3
90x3
90x3
90x3Clean Pulls
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5Prone Row
60x5
60x5
55x5
55x5BNP - 4x5 at 30kg
Reverse Lunges - 4x6es at 30kg
Lat Pullovers - 4x6'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 8, 2012 - 04:38 PM # -
Back Squat
warmed up to 100x5knees are sore, rec fem is sore. just left them. I need to look after my knees. Might try these squats tomorrow.
Power Jerks
70x5
75x5
80x5
85x5
85x5 - SLOPPYSwiss Ball Leg Curl
3x5Did Bench Press instead of Squats
85x5
90x5
95x5
100x5
105x4 - spotter had a mare helping me out with it.Tricep Extensions - 5x6 - 26pin
Hip Thrusts - 5x6 - 180kg
Face pulls - 5x6 - 38pin'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 10, 2012 - 09:12 PM # -
Knee sore, lumber back sore, shoulder sore.
Take 10 days off, do appox 8 rehab/prehab sessions in that time and start again with some lower volume Olympic stuff.
Opinions appreciated!
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 11, 2012 - 05:33 PM # -
Snatch
40x1
40x1
45x1
45x1
45x1
50x185
50x1
55x1
55x1
60x1Clean Pull x 2 - Hang Clean Below Knee x 1
80kg - 2+1
80kg - 2+1
85kg - 2+1
85kg - 2+1
90kg - 2+1Push Press
65x3
65x3
70x3
70x3
75x3Back Squat
125x3
127x3
130x3'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 24, 2012 - 06:46 PM # -
smashed a random upper body weights circuit to failure today. 3 superset of a lot of dropset failures. was gooooood. might scrap performance training and get massive instead!
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 25, 2012 - 10:09 PM # -
Headache for the entire session
Snatch Pull
40-2+1
45-2+1
50-2+1
55-2+ failed hang snatch
55-2+failed hang snatchClean and jerk
80x1
80x1
85x1
85x1
90x1
90x1
95x1
95 - onto toes on clean - failed jerk.
95x1 - anterior core is weak piss
95x1Front squat
100x3
105x2 - was going to pass out
105x1- front squats and a headache don't go together'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 27, 2012 - 12:17 PM # -
Snatch
40x2
50x2
55x2
60x2
65x2Clean Pull + Hang clean from hip
75x 1+1
80x 1+1
80x 1+1
85x 1+1
85x 1+1Behind the Neck Jerk
85x2
90x2
95x2
95x2
100x2Back Squat
125x5
127x5
130x2 - was dead'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 28, 2012 - 06:06 PM # -
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 28, 2012 - 06:14 PM #1 like (Yusef) -
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 28, 2012 - 06:17 PM #1 like (Yusef) -
Failing 95kg clean and jerks.
Knee hurts, head hurts - I'm going to stop this training for a while. I don't feel that I can keep improving and performing with all that I have on my plate at the minute.
Two jobs, coaching and uni work all taking preference. I'm constantly fatigued and feeling ill. I'm going to continue training, but just quick 45min blasts of circuit/bodybuilding stuff until dissertation hand in which is 10th sept.
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateJuly 30, 2012 - 06:21 PM # -
Just smashed random hypertropy sessions last week. no programming and its just easy to do. this will probably last the next 6/7 weeks.
Will post for own records this week.
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateAugust 6, 2012 - 09:15 AM # -
Yesterday:
Clean pulls - 6x4
Box squats - 6x8Sled push + pulls - 6x30m
Battle ropes - 6x30secsToday
Bench press (3 second eccentric plus 2 second pause)
Bar x 10
40x10
50x10
60x10
70x6
80x5
70x5
60x8
50x12
40x17
30x16Incline DB press - 6x8 full, x8 partial
Cable tricep push down -6x8
Foot elevated push ups - failure ....... 1 min restMechanical advantage pull ups (3position) - with band 6xfailure
Barbell arm curls - 6 x failure
DB hammer curls - 6 x failure......1 min restTowel grip trap bar walks - 6x20m
Alekna - 6x45s'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateAugust 8, 2012 - 10:12 PM # -
11/8
Incline DB press - 6x8 full, x8 partial
TRX Rows -6x8
2 DB Lat Pullovers - failure ....... 1 min restMechanical advantage pull ups (3position) - with band 6xfailure
Barbell arm curls - 6 x failure
DB hammer curls - 6 x failure......1 min rest12/8
loads of deadlifts until a solid 130x6
Deadlifts 6x8 - 3sec ecc...90s rest - 110kg
13x8
50mins of fasted cardio...walks/bike
'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateAugust 13, 2012 - 04:15 PM # -
Had no internet for a bit, and was crying through a MSc dissertation. Been training well the last 3 weeks. I may blog again. At the minute I'm loving eating shit food, getting lean and getting strong.
Weighing 73kg, I am on a bit of a deload week at the minute, were I have increased the intensity and halved the volume.
Fri 5/10/12
1. Power Cleans
90kg 3 sets of 32. Wide Grip Pull Ups
6kg 3x52. Military Pres
60kg 3x53. Back Squat
125kg 3x54. Deadlift
140x5
145x5
150x5Mon 8/10/12
1. Clean Pulls
110kg 3x32. Bench Press
100kg x3
105kg 2x32. Bent Over Row
60kg 3x83. Back Squat
135kg x3
140kg 2x34. RDL
120kg 3x5'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateOctober 8, 2012 - 07:12 PM # -
Mon 8/10/12
1. Hang Power Cleans
80kg x3
85kg x3
90kg x2, last one full squat2. Chin Ups
8kg - 3x83. Back Squat
115kg 3x84. Deadlifts
140kg 3x8'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateOctober 10, 2012 - 04:37 PM # -
1. Power Cleans
90kg 2x3
95kg 2x3 - last rep of last set full squat2. Wide Grip Pull Ups
7kg 4x52. Military Press
62kg 4x5 - last rep of last set push press3. Back Squat
120kg 4x54. Deadlift
145kg 4x5'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateOctober 15, 2012 - 03:15 PM # -
1. Clean Pulls
110kg 4x3 - these felt shit2. Bench Press - shoulder didn't feel great - went easy
80kg 3x3 - all 2 second eccentric and a 2 second pause
90kg 1x3 - as above2. Bent Over Row
65kg 4x83. Back Squat
140kg 4x34. RDL
120kg 4x5'It then dawns on me that this guy has done his homework and is much more educated that
I am, but at what expense? His program still sucks!' Dave TateOctober 17, 2012 - 03:48 PM #
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